New Themes for the Main Site

[EddieK]

Big Show Misc?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3m8NXDxA4Y

Sure! Listed.

[Alex]

As reported by TheBigTedbowski, there is not page yet for the 2005 Royal Rumble promo "West Side Rumble".
https://vimeo.com/55403931
Can someone add it to the main site, please ?

There's a making-of video too, that was aired in January 2005.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1fr29
Note: the version heard in this video has piano notes that are not on the promo version.

[EddieK]

As reported by TheBigTedbowski, there is not page yet for the 2005 Royal Rumble promo "West Side Rumble".
https://vimeo.com/55403931
Can someone add it to the main site, please ?

There's a making-of video too, that was aired in January 2005.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1fr29
Note: the version heard in this video has piano notes that are not on the promo version.

Done! Do you happen to know the air date for the making of video?

[chambersja]

Okay so in response to this topic recently posted:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=14727
and under Duke The Dumpsters misc page there is a theme posted that I think is a remake.
https://xylotthemes.com/#!/themes/wwe/dukedroesemisc

Theme Titan says he is only aware of one Duke The Dumpster Droese theme song..

[chambersja]

So I need help identifying two songs..
Also I would like to suggest A listing for a The Forgotten Suns Misc. page.

They used two themes that I found at house shows.

One is NXT Largo 1-10-2019, Q2RAW LIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2b8kpF4lwE

Another is on their Entrance Video uploaded to the WWE YouTube page.
In the comments somebody says: They uploaded the wrong theme though, just checked, they are still using the CFO$ song and this the one they used on houseshows before their TV debut.
The song is identified as "Devil Inside by SATV Music" according to Shazam (Others have used this theme)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj30p08zwVE

Edit 2:
Here is a house show where they used it NXT Live Paris June 11 2018?.. (Maybe not earliest)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAKhvIgbkUc

Edit: Fabian Aichener has a Misc Theme.
If this was never used it is an intro cut officially uploaded by WWE's YouTube page.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGFOufyKwMg

[chambersja]

I think the 2K17 version of Big Show's Big V1 is perhaps a faster speed of the Tapes version of Big V1... If so is that why there is an arena version listed on the main site? Is that the difference and which one of these is the arena version?

Edit: Just used the broadcast audio it seems the tapes version is not used when he debuted the theme..

[Alex]

I think the tapes version of Big Show's Big V1 is perhaps a slower speed of the WWE 2K17 version of Big V1... If so is that why there is an arena version listed on the main site? Is that the difference and which one of these is the arena version?

It was originally listed as "arena version" to avoid confusion with the Volume 4 album version and the second version used. It was later changed as it's now, for the first version. I personally think the album version is simply an unused different version of the song, so "arena version" for V1 isn't necessary.

[chambersja]

I think the tapes version of Big Show's Big V1 is perhaps a slower speed of the WWE 2K17 version of Big V1... If so is that why there is an arena version listed on the main site? Is that the difference and which one of these is the arena version?

It was originally listed as "arena version" to avoid confusion with the Volume 4 album version and the second version used. It was later changed as it's now, for the first version. I personally think the album version is simply an unused different version of the song, so "arena version" for V1 isn't necessary.

Edit: Just used the broadcast audio it seems the tapes version is not used when he debuted the theme..
So the WWE 2K17 version is the correct V1 and the tapes either got messed up when recording or is unused?
Or I should use the original recording as a reference. I am using the video on the main site. But idk why they would dub the same theme.

Edit: Yes the one on the album is unused. Or like an updated version of v2.

[Alex]

I think the tapes version of Big Show's Big V1 is perhaps a slower speed of the WWE 2K17 version of Big V1... If so is that why there is an arena version listed on the main site? Is that the difference and which one of these is the arena version?

It was originally listed as "arena version" to avoid confusion with the Volume 4 album version and the second version used. It was later changed as it's now, for the first version. I personally think the album version is simply an unused different version of the song, so "arena version" for V1 isn't necessary.

Edit: Just used the broadcast audio it seems the tapes version is not used when he debuted the theme..
So the WWE 2K17 version is the correct V1 and the tapes either got messed up when recording or is unused?
Or I should use the original recording as a reference. I am using the video on the main site. But idk why they would dub the same theme.

Edit: Yes the one on the album is unused. Or like an updated version of v2.

There might be a slight speed difference between broadcast recordings and arena tapes. WWF Fan Club tapes are faster, for example. I wonder if it was an issue with the tapes or only something that happened during the transfer of the tapes to a computer.

[chambersja]

@Alexandre thank you good to know!

Found a new theme for the site but it needs to be identified.
It is Sasha Banks who is known as Miss Mercedes in the NWA On Fire show.
https://youtu.be/ZojnxfyCLz0?t=123

[bubbafan2]

Alexandre is absolutely right.
The majority of arena tapes, not just Fan Club but even Zube or Godzfire, do not match actual arena speed. Years ago I went through a bunch of arena tapes and speed-corrected them to actual arena footage. That was a big job

Even a few Uncaged releases are a little off on speed. Off the top of my head, Evil Doink’s theme is too fast on its Uncaged release, and I had to slow it down to match his WMIX entrance.

[chambersja]

Alexandre is absolutely right.
The majority of arena tapes, not just Fan Club but even Zube or Godzfire, do not match actual arena speed. Years ago I went through a bunch of arena tapes and speed-corrected them to actual arena footage. That was a big job

Even a few Uncaged releases are a little off on speed. Off the top of my head, Evil Doink’s theme is too fast on its Uncaged release, and I had to slow it down to match his WMIX entrance.

Oh..
O_O

Well I will have to start checking them myself. Good to know.

[chambersja]

No, there is a major difference. Listen to the drums in the beginning. Then it's after the Break It Down part that it goes back to a normal track. But the song is doubled in the beginning.

Here is the album version and then listen to the recording I made...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54enRhM_BS0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7xjq41x6ygmef ... n.mp3?dl=0

I don't know if it has to be updated on the main site. But if this is an edit that Johnston made specifically to give the intro more kick which is what it sounds like, it should then be investigated further.
I am about to watch the following weeks RAW.

Hi Xylot and Hi Leaf I am sorry if you don't think this theme should be counted in regards to your post under D-Generation X on the main site.
I made a clear edit to the differences found and suggested it should be called "Arena Edit" Not necessarily "Arena Version" as it was used only that one night.

Here is a video to show the edit in clear quality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgRZMwI8Sbw

Also to the Admin I removed all my videos but I recently re uploaded the video of the DX Droppin' Knowledge promo ( https://xylotthemes.com/#!/themes/wwe/d ... nknowledge ) if you felt like replacing it on the listing, so people can hear the new version of the instrumental. Here it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIm0ttKkUm4

[Leaf]

No, there is a major difference. Listen to the drums in the beginning. Then it's after the Break It Down part that it goes back to a normal track. But the song is doubled in the beginning.

Here is the album version and then listen to the recording I made...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54enRhM_BS0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7xjq41x6ygmef ... n.mp3?dl=0

I don't know if it has to be updated on the main site. But if this is an edit that Johnston made specifically to give the intro more kick which is what it sounds like, it should then be investigated further.
I am about to watch the following weeks RAW.

Hi Xylot and Hi Leaf I am sorry if you don't think this theme should be counted in regards to your post under D-Generation X on the main site.
I made a clear edit to the differences found and suggested it should be called "Arena Edit" Not necessarily "Arena Version" as it was used only that one night.

Here is a video to show the edit in clear quality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgRZMwI8Sbw

Also to the Admin I removed all my videos but I recently re uploaded the video of the DX Droppin' Knowledge promo ( https://xylotthemes.com/#!/themes/wwe/d ... nknowledge ) if you felt like replacing it on the listing, so people can hear the new version of the instrumental. Here it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIm0ttKkUm4

That's just the reverberance from the arena.

[Jean]

Breezango 2019/10/09 - Break Boogie from APM. WWE added some construction sound effects to it.

[Chris]

Breezango 2019/10/09 - Break Boogie from APM. WWE added some construction sound effects to it.

Updated, thanks!

[Wimpyburgers]

John Saboor's theme count already exist, but only two songs are listed and a few themes need to be added. All themes are listed in the correct date and use order below. Thanks in advance.

John Saboor Updated Misc. Theme Count


1st: "Surrender" (Intro Cut) by Angels & Airwaves
Artist: Angels & Airwaves
Album: Love: Part Two
Used: WrestleMania 29 Press Conference (April 4, 2013)
Notes: The song starts at 1:12
Proof: https://youtu.be/bIOzXrGiHTk?t=4m45s

2nd: "New Day, New Way" by Jim Johnston feat. Maydie Myles
Artist: Jim Johnston feat. Maydie Myles
Album: WWE: New Day, New Way (The New Day) - Single
Used: WrestleMania 33 Press Conference (March 8, 2016)
Notes: Instrumental intro for the song was used and it replaces what would be the Big E quote in the iTunes release.
Proof: https://youtu.be/ii3V0-SRjok?t=3m8s

3rd: "Come On (Let the Good Times Roll)" (Intro Cut) by Freddie King
Artist: Freddie King
Album: Burglar
Used: WrestleMania 35 Press Conference (March 16th, 2018)
Notes: The song starts at 0:15.
Proof: https://youtu.be/6KbUS33vOqQ?t=4m55s

4th: "Charge Up The Power" (Intro Cut) by Goodbye June
Artist: Goodbye June
Album: Magic Valley
Used: WrestleMania 36 Press Conference (March 7, 2019)
Notes: The song starts at 0:52.
Proof: https://youtu.be/FdryyTY9M3Q?t=3m37s

[Chris]

Thanks, I've updated his count accordingly.

[Wimpyburgers]

Thanks, I've updated his count accordingly.

Cheers, Chris. Sending in more press conference themes once I've identified all non-WWE performers, like John Saboor, for example.

[IAmNeomic]

Alexandre is absolutely right.
The majority of arena tapes, not just Fan Club but even Zube or Godzfire, do not match actual arena speed. Years ago I went through a bunch of arena tapes and speed-corrected them to actual arena footage. That was a big job

Even a few Uncaged releases are a little off on speed. Off the top of my head, Evil Doink’s theme is too fast on its Uncaged release, and I had to slow it down to match his WMIX entrance.

Oh..
O_O

Well I will have to start checking them myself. Good to know.

Yes, every cassette deck is going to have slightly different speeds, because of the way the mechanism inside works. Some can become way off if they're not properly maintained. Hence why some of the tapes we got (Doink, TAFKA Goldust) sound way off compared to the proper versions. The heads will generally slow down over time, and then when played back on a different deck that is maybe better maintained, will sound much faster.

Most decks have small screws that you can twist to adjust the playback speed. You can buy tapes that have a 1000 Hz test tone, and you use software (or now days, an app) to adjust the speed until the tone is played back at 1000 Hz on your deck. Back before computers, studio engineers would have to use either just their hearing (which is pretty unreliable) or have special hardware to hear the tone (they usually looked like a guitar tuner), and make adjustments. The advantage we have in 2019 is that not only are these tools more reliable since they generally work digitally, but they're becoming cheaper and more plentiful as cassettes are having a bit of a resurgence thanks to TV shows like Stranger Things. So if you own a cassette deck, now would be the time to buy a test tone tape or two, and do some maintenance on your decks. Takes about 15 minutes to do properly, and I would suggest maybe doing it once a year, depending on how often any of you use your cassette decks.

Even professionally maintained decks and reel-to-reels can have speed variances. If you go back to some original albums from the 70s and 80s and compare them to modern remasters, you'll even see speed variances. The original Blizzard of Oz CD release plays back at a slightly different speed than the recent remaster. Less than 1%, but it's definitely there. There's tons of other examples as well.