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Okay, so lately i have been trying to get my Kane titantron count perfect so i can post them in order on Youtube, what i have noticed is that Kane's theme count goes as the following:

1st: Theme From WWE The Music 5 (Burned?)
2nd: Theme From WWE The Music 3 (Out Of The Fire?)
3rd: Theme From WWE The Music 3 (Out Of The Fire?) (Intro Cut)
4th: Slow Chemical
5th: Current Theme

Now you will notice that Kane in fact used his theme from Volume 5 first, it wasn't then released until WWE The Music 5 was released. Now i am not blindly coming on here and making accusations as i have done my research. I went ahead and watched Kane's match with The Undertaker at Wrestlemania 14 (1998) and found out that he used his theme from WWE The Music 5 when he entered the ring.

Now, the difference between the two themes basically is that the version from Volume 5 does not have cymbals in the intro whereas the version from Volume 3 does. If you watch Kane's match with The Undertaker and listen hard you will see his theme does not have cymbals in it, therefore his first is the theme from Volume 5.

Also, i noticed when the site was up there was a theme up for Kane in which had the intro from the version on Volume 5 added to the Slow Chemical theme, i saw this as being a fake so i searched for when Kane debutted the Slow Chemical theme, it was a few weeks after Wrestlemania 2002 in a match against X-Pac and he used the intro cut version we all know him for using.

Anyway, post anything you have to add, ill take anything under consideration. Want more proof? Ill gladly give it to you.

More proof. Here is Kane 1st titantron ripped straight from the very first Smackdown game:

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=n3ZwzedKPKI

You can clearly hear that this version of the theme (the one from WWE The Music 5) does not have the cymbals in the intro.

I'm not too sure, but it seems you got the wrong titles for the first 3 themes. I've checked the Volume 5 tracklist around the net, and the song Kane had back in 2001 is listed as Out of the Fire in every site I've checked (Amazon, eBay, Ciao, Wikipedia, some 7 or 8 forums, within Google's 1st 20 results). No idea about why they decided to rename it Burned when the song was re-released in Anthology CD2, but at least Kane's 2nd and 3rd themes were originally named Out of the Fire.

If I'm mistaken, i'll accept my error and apologize for it.

By the way... I remember there was trouble finding the arena edit of Kane's 4th theme a couple weeks ago. Did someone find it?

isnt the theme, released on volume 3, the same theme he used the night he debuted at Badd Blood 97? Im pretty sure it is.

Vol.3 = Burned
Vol.5 = Out of the Fire
Anthology disk 2 = Burned (OOTF Renamed/shortened)

Okay, so the theme count would look like the following

1st: Out Of The Fire
2nd: Burned
3rd: Burned (Intro Cut)
4th: Slow Chemical
5th: Current Theme

Nevermore wrote:isnt the theme, released on volume 3, the same theme he used the night he debuted at Badd Blood 97? Im pretty sure it is.

I just checked, he used 'Out Of The Fire', the version from WWE The Music 5. The theme does not have the cymbals in the intro.

That's a pretty low quality Youtube video and is not "proof" of anything. I have the full quality tron rip from Smackdown 1, and it is the same as Volume 3. I have WrestleMania 14 on DVD and he indeed used his Volume 3 theme. I don't understand the trouble with his theme count as it is pretty obvious.

THIS IS A SINGLES COUNT ONLY - DOES NOT INCLUDE TAG TEAM THEMES
1st - WWF The Music Volume 3 (Burned)
2nd - WWF The Music Volume 5 (Out of the Fire)
3rd - WWF The Music Volume 5 (No Intro)
4th - Slow Chemical by Finger Eleven (WWE Edit) (Intro From 2nd)
5th - Slow Chemical by Finger Eleven (WWE Edit)
6th - Current theme from Kane DVD

peteroshea90 wrote:That's a pretty low quality Youtube video and is not "proof" of anything. I have the full quality tron rip from Smackdown 1, and it is the same as Volume 3. I have WrestleMania 14 on DVD and he indeed used his Volume 3 theme. I don't understand the trouble with his theme count as it is pretty obvious.

THIS IS A SINGLES COUNT ONLY - DOES NOT INCLUDE TAG TEAM THEMES
1st - WWF The Music Volume 3 (Burned)
2nd - WWF The Music Volume 5 (Out of the Fire)
3rd - WWF The Music Volume 5 (No Intro)
4th - Slow Chemical by Finger Eleven (WWE Edit) (Intro From 2nd)
5th - Slow Chemical by Finger Eleven (WWE Edit)
6th - Current theme from Kane DVD

Okay, first, please give me some proof of Kane using Slow Chemical with the intro, i saw his match where he debutted the Slow Chemical theme and it did not have an intor at all, it was the intro cut labelled as his 5th.

Second, it doesn't matter if that video is low quality of not, you can clearly tell it does not have cymbals in the intro, nor does the theme he entered to in his debut, nor does it when he enters for his match against Mankind not long afterwards.

I didnt just blindly come on here and make accusations, i did my research and checked past matches of Kane's.

DeanJames wrote:

peteroshea90 wrote:That's a pretty low quality Youtube video and is not "proof" of anything. I have the full quality tron rip from Smackdown 1, and it is the same as Volume 3. I have WrestleMania 14 on DVD and he indeed used his Volume 3 theme. I don't understand the trouble with his theme count as it is pretty obvious.

THIS IS A SINGLES COUNT ONLY - DOES NOT INCLUDE TAG TEAM THEMES
1st - WWF The Music Volume 3 (Burned)
2nd - WWF The Music Volume 5 (Out of the Fire)
3rd - WWF The Music Volume 5 (No Intro)
4th - Slow Chemical by Finger Eleven (WWE Edit) (Intro From 2nd)
5th - Slow Chemical by Finger Eleven (WWE Edit)
6th - Current theme from Kane DVD

Okay, first, please give me some proof of Kane using Slow Chemical with the intro, i saw his match where he debutted the Slow Chemical theme and it did not have an intor at all, it was the intro cut labelled as his 5th.

Second, it doesn't matter if that video is low quality of not, you can clearly tell it does not have cymbals in the intro, nor does the theme he entered to in his debut, nor does it when he enters for his match against Mankind not long afterwards.

I didnt just blindly come on here and make accusations, i did my research and checked past matches of Kane's.

Regarding that video DeanJames posted, I listened to it and it seems like someone chopped the Vol. 3 song to make it fit with the Anthology version of Vol. 5, thus making it a fanmade edit. Also, I've checked other 3 or 4 videos from Bad Blood '97, and Kane's theme actually had cymbals in the beginning of the song. I think Peteroshea is right about that.

Now, about Kane's 4th theme, to date I haven't seen a video where Kane uses the Vol.5 intro prior to Slow Chemical.

Kane used his Volume 3 theme until mid-2000 and then he started using his Volume 5 theme.

I may be wrong then, but I'm pretty sure he used it on the 8-4-2002 match on Raw against X-Pac. If not then I'll keep searching for when he did use it, and if he didn't use it, Simply take the count out and leave the rest as that's how it would be.

peteroshea90 wrote:I may be wrong then, but I'm pretty sure he used it on the 8-4-2002 match on Raw against X-Pac. If not then I'll keep searching for when he did use it, and if he didn't use it, Simply take the count out and leave the rest as that's how it would be.

Nah he didnt use it in his match with X-Pac, i had to check out the titantron he used in that match as thats when he debutted 'Slow Chemical' and it didn't have the intro.

If that was the same WrestleMania Collection DVD on youtube you watched, it's more likely Kane's WM14 entrance was dubbed. This also happened with Austin's 1997 theme dubbed over his 1999 theme. I still own the VHS version and its indeed he did entered his Vol. 3 theme.

I also never saw a match were he used Out Of The Fire Intro with Slow Chemical so I guess its

1st Burned
2nd Out Of The Fire
3rd Out Of The Fire (Intro Cut)
4th Slow Chemical
5th Man On Fire

as long as we dont find a proof for it I guess its like that and if he really used it its hard to find the match if he really only used it in one match

Yeah, I think it turned out that Out Of The Fire with the Slow Chemical intro was fan-made or something like that. So do we have that count down yet?

The McD

Thanks for the heads up guys, ill be sure to change my theme and tron count for Kane to the proper one.

Kane 1st: "Burned"
(Debuted at Bad Blood: InYourHouse - Released on WWF The Music Volume 3)
October 1997

Kane 2nd: "Burned"
(Released on WWF The Music Volume 3)
(Edited: No Intro)
May 2000

Kane 3rd: "Out of the Fire"
(Released on WWF The Music Volume 5)
(Edited: No Intro)
July 2000

Kane 4th: "Slow Chemical" by Finger Eleven
(Released on International version of Forceable Entry)
(Edited: No Intro)
April 2002

Kane 5th: "Man On Fire"
(Released on "Twisted And Disturbed Life of Kane" DVD and WWE The Music Volume 9)
August 2008

That's what i thought, but isn't the version on Volume 5 labelled 'Burned' and the one on Volume 3 labelled 'Out Of The Fire'?

Vol. 3 - "Burned"
Vol. 5 - "Out Of The Fire"
Anthology - "Out Of The Fire" shortened and labeled "Burned"

Thanks for the counts Beast.