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Re: Xylot Vs Antdogs [Offical Discussion Thread]

Posted: November 4th, 2008, 7:11 am
by sir robert
xylot is easier to use if it's the site i think it is

Re: Xylot Vs Antdogs [Offical Discussion Thread]

Posted: November 4th, 2008, 7:16 am
by TriMoon
KNorth wrote: Imagine trying to spell words correctly while trying to correct someone else, oh man how much easier your life would be.
Yeah, I wonder that sometimes myself also. =/

And...well, fuck it, I'm too boored to complain about anything now. Anyway I can see that this useless topic has gone offtopic already.

Re: Xylot Vs Antdogs [Offical Discussion Thread]

Posted: November 4th, 2008, 7:23 am
by InverseNight
Hans Moleman wrote:lol wow all of this drama over fucking wrestling theme songs.

Seriously.
Quoted for truth.

Internet drama, and these silly little OOH WEBSITE WARS are always retarded. This has always been true and.. *gasp* hey! Guess what? It's still true.

You know, i find it very funny and very sad that this thread actually seems necessary to get people to shut the hell up on other parts of the forums. Especially since this shit has no place absolutely anywhere.

I wish people would realize that everyone looking from the outside of the argument in and laughing at it (like so) is the only real objective viewpoint possible without actively trying to be involved in it.

But eh. Why am I even bothering to say this? Common sense is useless when TEH OMG DRAMA keeps raging on, senselessly.

But, hey everyone...... have fun, I guess. :roll:

I mean, hell.. Far be it from me to really keep people from wasting their lives bitching like 5 year-olds regarding the "my penis is bigger than yours" mentality of this horseshit, if they really want to.

But, whatever. By all means, feel free to ignore me, and continue the bullshit. After all, i'm sure someone, somewhere is loving this.

However, back in reality..... sad to say, but most intelligent, worthwhile or mature people probably aren't. :|

Re: Xylot Vs Antdogs [Offical Discussion Thread]

Posted: November 4th, 2008, 8:32 am
by Jackson
An argument about proper spelling, based on a typo, is probably the most sane argument we've had in months.

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"I'll allow it".

Re: Xylot Vs Antdogs [Offical Discussion Thread]

Posted: November 4th, 2008, 10:15 am
by TEOL
The whole Xylot has spyware thing is stupid also.

XT doesn't spy on peoples passwords, it's phishing free as far as I know.

The only way I'll beleive this spyware shoutbox bullshit is with cold hard evidence, like an Antdogs account screencap of a hacked username like Craig's so called hacked account, although we all know he has 2 on there along with D-Shadow which is an alter ego of Y2ken or Ken Anderson unless if there are 2 Ken's.

Now I think it's stupid that I didn't make make another AD account, now that I think about it because I would still be on there like Toodles and Y2Ken and not get caught like they didn't.

Re: Xylot Vs Antdogs [Offical Discussion Thread]

Posted: November 4th, 2008, 10:33 am
by Shaun2J
trimoon wrote:Well if you ask me I think this is just stupid and childish. Fucksake people, why you have to fight which place is better? These are only forums, nothing else. There is no reason why both of these forums should fight which forum is better. I think people who can't get over that they are banned from AntDogs/Steveo has pissed them off or they just want to agree with Xylot themes should really get a life. Yeah, I remember when I have cried about my bans and how people have treated me like shit, but that was many many years ago when I was like...ummm...10 years old. Are we little too old to fight things like these? It's just internet, nothing personal...well sometimes it can go but come on, get a life and move on. XylotThemes, I think you just made a mistake when you opened this topic, it just increase more hate. The best way to end this whole AntDogs vs Xylot Themes feud is just ignore the whole thing. AntDogs people will stop bashing this when some time has past. So my advice is that you should take a look in the mirror, know your role and shut your mouth, AntDogs people and Xylot Themes people, both should just grow up. Jeez, this is so childish...
Please read this. Just ignore them, anyone who wants to spark a fire should have there posts/threads deleted and locked or even be banned. That way the "feud" is washed away and nothing comes from both sides. Anyone claiming superiority to a theme just has no idea, how much of an arse he/she is.

Re: Xylot Vs Antdogs [Offical Discussion Thread]

Posted: November 4th, 2008, 10:41 am
by TEOL
Trimoon's reason is the same reason why I created this thread.

I was hating all this bullshit happening in other threads, so the smart area my brain told me to make this thread.

Re: Xylot Vs Antdogs [Offical Discussion Thread]

Posted: November 4th, 2008, 3:47 pm
by StarBank
As far as I'm concerned, I don't care for AntDogs. He allowed a group of morons (aka Gorylution) to basically take over his forums. He did NOTHING when they attacked me. They even brainwashed him into having my AD account banned and then deleted. Like XT/TerranRich has said before, unless you're willing to show physical proof that you have some unreleased theme, then keep your f**king mouth shut. I truly considered AntDogs to be my friend until the shit with Gorylution happened.

I think I've finally figured out why they act the way they do. It kinda helps to know a bit about human psychology.

The way I figure it, they act like badasses/jerks/assholes/etc online probably because they get treated like shit at home, get bullied at school, & get ignored by people at work (if they have jobs) (with no one willing to help them out in any of the situations) and so, the only way they can deal with it (or know how to deal with it) is to take what people do to them and do it to other people online. In other words, they take out their anger on undeserving people online. Looking at it, in a way, it's kinda, I don't know.....sad & pathetic that they've had to lower themselves by THAT much just to deal with what's going on in their lives. That they can't grow up and deal with shit like that like an adult. From everything I've heard about the people @ AD, it sounds like they're nothing more than children who end up throwing a temper tantrum when things don't go their way. But, that's just from my point of view, with what I've learned about human psychology.

Re: Xylot Vs Antdogs [Offical Discussion Thread]

Posted: November 4th, 2008, 4:28 pm
by TEOL
I hated Gorylution, they gave me my first ban.

Re: Xylot Vs Antdogs [Offical Discussion Thread]

Posted: November 4th, 2008, 5:45 pm
by Craig-UK
TEOL wrote:The only way I'll beleive this spyware shoutbox bullshit is with cold hard evidence, like an Antdogs account screencap of a hacked username like Craig's so called hacked account, although we all know he has 2 on there along with D-Shadow which is an alter ego of Y2ken or Ken Anderson unless if there are 2 Ken's.

Now I think it's stupid that I didn't make make another AD account, now that I think about it because I would still be on there like Toodles and Y2Ken and not get caught like they didn't.
OK #1 my account was used as for a few days running many threads was marked read when I know I had not been on it, it wasnt until I changed my password that it stopped and it was not long after I signed up to the shoutbox here, but ah well.
#2 Toodles (old Craig-UK account) account I closed on antdogs around February/March, I didnt want to originally be associated back with that name so I came back as MasahiroChono because of too many pm's, so gave it a lil time for people to stop botherin me, I then changed it back to Craig-UK after a lil while and so far not many botherin me. I have never used 2 accounts at the same time on any forum anywhere.

Re: Xylot Vs Antdogs [Offical Discussion Thread]

Posted: November 4th, 2008, 5:48 pm
by unpossibl1
Craig-UK wrote:
TEOL wrote:The only way I'll beleive this spyware shoutbox bullshit is with cold hard evidence, like an Antdogs account screencap of a hacked username like Craig's so called hacked account, although we all know he has 2 on there along with D-Shadow which is an alter ego of Y2ken or Ken Anderson unless if there are 2 Ken's.

Now I think it's stupid that I didn't make make another AD account, now that I think about it because I would still be on there like Toodles and Y2Ken and not get caught like they didn't.
OK #1 my account was used as for a few days running many threads was marked read when I know I had not been on it, it wasnt until I changed my password that it stopped and it was not long after I signed up to the shoutbox here, but ah well.
#2 Toodles (old Craig-UK account) account I closed on antdogs around February/March, I didnt want to originally be associated back with that name so I came back as MasahiroChono because of too many pm's, so gave it a lil time for people to stop botherin me, I then changed it back to Craig-UK after a lil while and so far not many botherin me. I have never used 2 accounts at the same time on any forum anywhere.
No offense XT, why just not bann him?

Re: Xylot Vs Antdogs [Offical Discussion Thread]

Posted: November 4th, 2008, 8:10 pm
by ZEUS
unpossibl1 wrote:
Craig-UK wrote:
TEOL wrote:The only way I'll beleive this spyware shoutbox bullshit is with cold hard evidence, like an Antdogs account screencap of a hacked username like Craig's so called hacked account, although we all know he has 2 on there along with D-Shadow which is an alter ego of Y2ken or Ken Anderson unless if there are 2 Ken's.

Now I think it's stupid that I didn't make make another AD account, now that I think about it because I would still be on there like Toodles and Y2Ken and not get caught like they didn't.
OK #1 my account was used as for a few days running many threads was marked read when I know I had not been on it, it wasnt until I changed my password that it stopped and it was not long after I signed up to the shoutbox here, but ah well.
#2 Toodles (old Craig-UK account) account I closed on antdogs around February/March, I didnt want to originally be associated back with that name so I came back as MasahiroChono because of too many pm's, so gave it a lil time for people to stop botherin me, I then changed it back to Craig-UK after a lil while and so far not many botherin me. I have never used 2 accounts at the same time on any forum anywhere.
No offense XT, why just not bann him?

Maybe because he is a resourceful and valuable member who provides useful information about themes(especially older and production ones) and has also help obtain a few stuff in CDQ that I doubt harldly any of the people here or on antdogs have even heard of. but for some reason he constantly gets attacked for no reason other than offering constructive criticism as I haven't seen him verbally insult anyone the whole time I've been here.

I'm not getting further involved though because I could not care less about any history between you or Craig or either colour of this barrel of monkeys here and their idiotic little argument about how much they hate each other's forum. I am here and at other forum's like this one to do a job. Personally I believe this thread and so many others like it are just a waste of time and just stop work getting done. They do not resolve anything other than to cause more animosity and hate and there is just about enough of that in the world as it is don't you think?

Can't see just how easy it would be if people learned to ignore others they don't like or better yet work together as a lot more stuff would probably be found in half the amount of time it usually takes. But unfortunately around these type of places showing how big your ego is seems to be more important than using your brain. When stuff like this comes up, the only people who get anything at the end are the ones like me who stay out of it and quietly go and find the things I want myself without making a fuss about it. If I can't find it or someone else has it and won't give it to me that is just tough luck I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. I have much more important things to be thinking about at the moment, namely the upcoming UK recession and how I will deal with my money, and you all should too.

Re: Xylot Vs Antdogs [Offical Discussion Thread]

Posted: November 4th, 2008, 8:28 pm
by sir robert
i guess this is war

Re: Xylot Vs Antdogs [Offical Discussion Thread]

Posted: November 4th, 2008, 8:38 pm
by sir robert
ThemeAnthology2350 wrote:An argument about proper spelling, based on a typo, is probably the most sane argument we've had in months.

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"I'll allow it".
kinda sad if ya think about it

Re: Xylot Vs Antdogs [Offical Discussion Thread]

Posted: November 4th, 2008, 9:01 pm
by TheLostLegend
unpossibl1 wrote:
Craig-UK wrote:
TEOL wrote:The only way I'll beleive this spyware shoutbox bullshit is with cold hard evidence, like an Antdogs account screencap of a hacked username like Craig's so called hacked account, although we all know he has 2 on there along with D-Shadow which is an alter ego of Y2ken or Ken Anderson unless if there are 2 Ken's.

Now I think it's stupid that I didn't make make another AD account, now that I think about it because I would still be on there like Toodles and Y2Ken and not get caught like they didn't.
OK #1 my account was used as for a few days running many threads was marked read when I know I had not been on it, it wasnt until I changed my password that it stopped and it was not long after I signed up to the shoutbox here, but ah well.
#2 Toodles (old Craig-UK account) account I closed on antdogs around February/March, I didnt want to originally be associated back with that name so I came back as MasahiroChono because of too many pm's, so gave it a lil time for people to stop botherin me, I then changed it back to Craig-UK after a lil while and so far not many botherin me. I have never used 2 accounts at the same time on any forum anywhere.
No offense XT, why just not bann him?
Craig-UK isnt the problem here, he is a helpful member of this site and just because he is associated with Antdogs you want XT to ban him? I don't think so.

Re: Xylot Vs Antdogs [Offical Discussion Thread]

Posted: November 4th, 2008, 9:18 pm
by peteroshea90
Which is my point. There are probably too many people who are ignorant and don't now (and maybe don't want to know) about this place. And there are plenty here (who have never been to Antdogs as well) who are ignorant about them. I think there are just too many people are pissed because registrations are closed, and I really don't know why, as there plenty of people on this forum that help other people and there are plenty on that forum that help other people.

Re: Xylot Vs Antdogs [Offical Discussion Thread]

Posted: November 4th, 2008, 10:30 pm
by TerranRich
Peter, I didn't deliberately lock that "For those of you..." thread. I posted it in a forum where replies aren't allowed. I didn't even remember I had set it that way until now. Somebody else showed me a screenshot of the thread from AntDogs, and I thought it was childish of him. Sure, it wasn't that much better of ME to reply the way I did, and I should've just ignored it and let well enough alone.

And Craig, it's too late if somebody else hacked into my DB and got the passwords. That's what I meant. I should have encrypted the passwords right from the beginning, but I didn't because I didn't think it was that big of a deal to begin with. I'm working on encrypting passwords (and using the encryption in checking logins) right now. I'm using a specially salted MD5 algorithm (Craig will know what that means).

I badmouthed AntDogs in the very beginning before I understood what people over there did. They do indeed work hard at finding production themes. While I don't agree with only sharing among themselves and not the rest of us unfortunate bastards, I still appreciate the hard work members over there do. I haven't badmouthed AntDogs in general in a LONG time and have nothing bad to say, except about SOME of their members that feel the need to flex their muscles over here and act all self-important and bad-ass.

KNorth, I'm starting to tire of how you constantly throw accusations at me. Yet, if I ban you, all hell will break loose and a Jihad will be declared upon us, or whatever the FEEMZZ equivalent of a Jihad is. And correcting other people's spelling? Really? Very original.

I don't claim to be better than AntDogs. We do what we do (share whatever themes we have and put them on a database for others to download, in an organized fashion) and they do what they do (find production themes, and whatever else they do). I even understand why AntDogs registration is closed. That's cool with me. Like I've said, I have no interest in even signing up there, because this is just a hobby. But certain members "invading" this forum and my site have turned an enjoyable little hobby into a dramatic, awful nightmare.

Craig-UK is not the problem. FAR from it. He has helped out with this site in more ways than anybody could imagine. He is a huge help to this site, and I consider him my friend.. at least on AIM. We talk on AIM from time to time and nearly every time he has some corrections for the site, which I always appreciate. And I trust him implicitly enough to not need any other confirmation.

Re: Xylot Vs Antdogs [Offical Discussion Thread]

Posted: November 4th, 2008, 10:36 pm
by Jackson
peteroshea90 wrote:Which is my point. There are probably too many people who are ignorant and don't now (and maybe don't want to know) about this place. And there are plenty here (who have never been to Antdogs as well) who are ignorant about them. I think there are just too many people are pissed because registrations are closed, and I really don't know why, as there plenty of people on this forum that help other people and there are plenty on that forum that help other people.
And either way being a part of either forum is beneficial to the non-casual, soon-to-be-casual wrestling theme collectors. Half the info on Xylot is stuff many fans haven't even seen or heard of before, a collaboration of both stuff from here and of present/past Antdog members. Key term: collaboration. Working together really isn't all that difficult it's just immaturity and ego's that corrupt the process. As someone mentioned earlier people take their personal issues and (sometimes unknowingly) express them in negative ways through the net. Psychlogically, some take this a little too seriously.

Sharing wrestling media should be a very simple process ESPECIALLY since someone was kind enough to build an entire website based on illegal sharing of copyrighted music.

Re: Xylot Vs Antdogs [Offical Discussion Thread]

Posted: November 4th, 2008, 10:41 pm
by TerranRich
Excellent point, ThemeAnthology. We should be working together, AntDogs and Xylot. I know we're not on the same level, or in the same league, as AntDogs, but we should ALL be collaborating and working together as a community. I don't mean opening the doors for membership; I mean sharing information like we were doing at one point, without being condescending and acting superior and copping an ego. We're all human beings, fallible and imperfect, and not everybody is a hardcore themer with insane knowledge of production libraries and theme information... hell, some casual theme collectors don't even know most of the themes are production tracks.

I think sometimes ADers lose sense of that... they're so good at what they do, that they assume everybody that wants themes should be at the same level that they are. That's where the ego comes in. I try not to have an ego about this place, but when people start telling me how I should run my forum and what I should and shouldn't do, I get a little offended and sometimes a little stubborn. I know a few things about running forums. I've been a moderator on many forums and administer another forum (porn-based... don't ask...) so I know a thing or two about a thing or two.

I don't know if some people think I'm a n00b at this, but trust me, I'm not.

But yeah, instead of fighting, we should really be working toward the greater good of amassing a collection of wrestling themes so great and large that others will tremble in fear! :D
Sharing wrestling media should be a very simple process ESPECIALLY since someone was kind enough to build an entire website based on illegal sharing of copyrighted music.
*gulp*

Re: Xylot Vs Antdogs [Official Discussion Thread]

Posted: November 5th, 2008, 12:59 am
by Iceman
XT should ban Craig... he is a hoarder, and its clearly stated in the rules that you must share everything you have.